you have 13 maybe 14 states if the democrats because they could turn their state into greece or california. >> we are in washington and the wording goes back to 86, right? >> yes. part of passing the 86 bill. we did as americans for tax reform. >> the wording, except a few numbers, the wording of the pledge hasn't changed. in 1986 when people first sign that pledge, the federal budget deficit was 220 billion. this year is 1.1 trillion. how can you say nothing has changed across lots of things have changed if we elect, for so we elected bush to focus not on spending. look, people vastly between the pledge or creates all the worst problems and a fledgling does certain things. the pledge makes tax increases more difficult at the state level and at the national level. we haven't had republican vote for an income tax since 1990 when bush did and threw away his presidency. and 93 tax increase which has only a democratic votes and there were no tax increases until 2009 when obama came in and raise taxes with democrats. >> republican's line. isn't this a bit -- you were having republicans takes a